On Sunday May 23, 2021, John Kyler and I spoke at Cottonwood Center for the Arts about my art exhibit. John is the editor of the book, The Stations of the Cross in Atonement for Abuse and the Healing of All. This video is the unedited presentation and discussion. I appreciate John traveling from MN for this important conversation. About 130 people attended the two hour presentation. I am grateful for Sandy and John Goddard for their support in making this exhibit possible. The art exhibit ends tomorrow at Cottonwood.